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Lady Lee
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BRITISH MP CALLS FOR GOV. INQUIRY into abuse
by hawkaw inbill bowen just emailed this to me and i wasn't too sure if had been posted.
this is very significant.
if anyone has helen's email or the email of the minister she wrote too asking for the enquiry, please post them.. hawk.
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Dubs Would be Totally Lost.........
by Farkel inthe topic of this thread is mostly directed towards jehovah's witnesses who still have some ability to think.
this topic is important to those jws who may have some doubts about their religion, no matter how small they might be.. i'm going to make perhaps, a rather startling assertion and instead of presenting all of my arguments for it, will invite others to contribute their own arguments.
if a person was to ask a number of jehovah's witnesses what was the single most important part of their religion, a variety of answers would be given, and without question, all of them would be wrong.. to put it another way, if one had the power to take away just one thing from the watchtower religion that would render it impotent and foundering like a beached whale, what would that one thing be?.
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Lady Lee
Problem solving = identify the problem - brainstorm for possible solutions - enact probable solution
So what's next? Ah yes brainstorm - how to use this information
Farkel I could almost kiss ya but I'll (((((Farkel)))) ya instead
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What kind of Apostate are YOU?
by SYN inthat's right, what class of apostate do you fit into?
personally, i'm of the faithless (i'm close to being an athiest) and indiscreet (no explanation needed) class.. are you of the enviable smurf apostate class?
or perhaps even the haunted second-hand furniture apostate class?
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Lady Lee
I think I am of the covertly-militant-apostate-class
OK not so covert-militant-apostate class
But not the in-your-face-class yet either
Edited by - Lady Lee on 20 July 2002 16:24:58
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Video Series: Cults, Mind Control and JWs.
by Lady Lee inhttp://www.kohlproductions.com/walkingwounded/i_hardiman.htm
well after 2 years i finally got the courage to watch myself.
this has taken a lot for me to sit down and watch this.
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Lady Lee
OMG This was done 2 years ago and I very clearly spoke about the whol eissue of sexual abuse in the organization
sexual abuse of children
and abuse of wives Woohoo.
I did this without a script
I know I know I am patting myself on the back here - but wow I forgot I said all this
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Video Series: Cults, Mind Control and JWs.
by Lady Lee inhttp://www.kohlproductions.com/walkingwounded/i_hardiman.htm
well after 2 years i finally got the courage to watch myself.
this has taken a lot for me to sit down and watch this.
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Lady Lee
http://www.kohlproductions.com/walkingwounded/I_hardiman.htm
Well after 2 years I finally got the courage to watch myself. This has taken a lot for me to sit down and watch this.
The last time I watched myself on video I was horrified.
But wow - they made me look great and I did a lot better than I expected
Thank you Andrew for a job well done
Edited by - Lady Lee on 20 July 2002 15:39:11
edited again because I can't spell
Edited by - Lady Lee on 21 July 2002 20:32:43
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I went to the Convention on Friday. NOW with pict
by Lady Lee ini was bored to death.
i deposited cards around the place that said .
stop.
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Lady Lee
no badges or monoply money for me - just straight hard hitting STOP WATCHTOWER CHILD ABUSE NOW
plain and simple. I thought about adding some info but probably no one would read it anyhow so I just K.I.S.S ed them
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3 in 1 thing again.
by Bleep inthis is a site promoting a case of 20,000 and counting child molesters.
of course they had to have 3 areas to come up with a good number to start with.
why would this site want too take a number from three areas some may ask.
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Lady Lee
Bleep Are ya listening?
As a victim of one of those 23,720 pedophiles I can honestly say I don't care what country they come from.
As the sister of a 5 yr old gilr who was the victim of this pedophile I don't care too much for statistics
As the niece of a victim of this same pedophile who the elders refused to do anything about.
I attended her funeral after she committed suicide. She was 12 years old.
No one would help her so she found her own solution.
Bleep. Do you really think they should be let loose in the congregation?
Do you want a guy like this taking YOUR child out on service?
or to the meeting?
or marrying YOUR daughter?
Cuz you have no idea who he is. His nasty little secret is safely tucked away in WT files
Edited by - Lady Lee on 20 July 2002 12:2:11
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Family love.
by Vivamus inthis is a rather sweet story, and i love telling it.
january this year was the time when i decided for sure that i would leave the witnesses.
i had made up my mind, had told the elders that my faith had died, and so i had made the ball for my df rolling.
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Lady Lee
Oh my gosh I have to wipe the tears from my eyes.
Funny how we become the prodigal children when we LEAVE the Borg
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ARE YOU FAIR MINDED???? Well we'll see...
by HaitianBoston inpedophile paradise.... too bad bill could not substanciate this accusation.... yes we do have pedophile in our ranks.... but bill 23,000 where the hell did you get that figure....(i want proof damnit).
yes we do have problems within the organisation.... yes, some elders have been on a power trip for a long time.... yes, there have been many doctrinal changes..... why would witnesses on certain countries allowed to vote why people in the us cannot even harbor.
the thought of voting.... i hope bill bowen does not get disfellowship...cause if he is he will no longer able to drum up supports among true diehard, dedicated witnesses to the cause.. most people up in here are deleberately bashing the organisation.... why?
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Lady Lee
HB You want change in the organization.
So do we. (but we may be looking for its demise rather than its reform)
We are happy apostates
Stick around. Play nice and soon you can be a happy apostate too.
If you want to debate with fellow JWs then there are other sites that have active faithful or reform JWs like yourself.
Until you decide WELCOME
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Why? Why can't JW's ADMIT there's a problem?
by pomegranate insome one asked: .
>>i don't understand.
i honestly do not understand how active jws can be presented with hundreds upon hundreds of cases that have occurred all over the world, and casually deny that there is any problem.<<.
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Lady Lee
Happy man ---> to get money
What money? Where is the money. I live in a country that does not go for large court settlements. 40 years ago when my father (not a JW) was taken to court for molesting me he got a $50 fine and a three year suspended sentence. Now just how long do you think that $50 lasted considering we never even got it. He died pennyless. Nope no money then either. I got a few pictures from his home.
As for my JW abuser - well that is a different story. The elders convinced my mother to send me in to foster care. He disappeared after a few years and nope no money there either.
Pedophile defenders love to pull out this "for the money" crap. It just isn't true.
Taking a pedophile to court (or the WTS) - in Canada - years after the fact - is a civil suit. That means I pay my own lawyer and court costs. Let's see even if I got the highest award given in Canada that I know of - a whopping $6,000 - I would not be doing it for the money. I would be spending more money for my costs. And let's not forget - you alos have to pay for psych assessments - not cheap by any standard - and then there is time off work to see lawyers, give depositions, go to court. You know this gets pretty expensive after a while. If it is a criminal case they take a lot of these costs but there is still all the time off work, the stress, the mental rehashing of tremendous pain and fear. Oh yeah I'm such a masochist - let's go for it
A bit of justice and honesty would be great. But abusers won't give it and the WTS defends them. Money would have been nice for the years of therapy. But hey yea let's just sue them for the sheer fun of it
Quite frankly I've got better things to do.